Peter Tatchell |
Pope Benedict XVI |
This is the first of a 4 Part series - based on an essay I wrote several years ago. I was inspired by Pope Benedict's observation in 2010 that "In the 1970s, pedophilia was theorized as something fully in conformity with man and even with children" - and the furious reaction from "Liberals" some of whom had genuinely forgotten while others were very anxious to cover up their own role in this moral fiasco!
It's relevant to the present controversy involving Peter Tatchell and Ireland's new Minister for Children (and Equality) Roderic O'Gorman who served as Chairman of the Green Party from 2011 to 2019
(1) Pope Benedict on “Liberal” Support for Paedophilia in 1970s
In an address to the Vatican diplomatic corps in shortly
before Christmas 2010, Pope Benedict stated that:
“In the 1970s, pedophilia was theorized as something fully in conformity with man and even with children. This, however, was part of a fundamental perversion of the concept of ethos. It was maintained - even within the realm of Catholic theology - that there is no such thing as evil in itself or good in itself. There is only a "better than" and a "worse than". Nothing is good or bad in itself. Everything depends on the circumstances and on the end in view. Anything can be good or also bad, depending upon purposes and circumstances. Morality is replaced by a calculus of consequences, and in the process it ceases to exist. The effects of such theories are evident today ………
Only the truth saves. We must ask ourselves what we can do to repair as much as possible the injustice that has occurred. We must ask ourselves what was wrong in our proclamation, in our whole way of living the Christian life, to allow such a thing to happen.”
‘This triggered
the usual outbursts of rage from liberals who had chosen to forget what their
predecessors had been saying and doing during that decade.
Margaret Kennedy,
from the “British Minister and Clergy
Sexual Abuse Survivors” group, complained:
“He is trying to say that the modern
world is corrupt and sexually rampant. It is blaming society for what is
actually their responsibility. No one in
any age has ever thought that adults having sex with children is right.” [!! My emphasis].
And of course, Barbara Blaine, head of SNAP, the “Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests”
which is based in the US:
“It is fundamentally disturbing to watch a brilliant man so conveniently misdiagnose a horrific scandal … Catholics should be embarrassed to hear their Pope talk again and again about abuse while doing little or nothing to stop it and to mischaracterise this heinous crisis … The Pope insists on talking about a vague ‘broader context’ he can’t control, while ignoring the clear ‘broader context’ he can influence - the long-standing and unhealthy culture of a rigid, secretive, all-male Church hierarchy fixated on self-preservation at all costs. This is the ‘context’ that matters.”
Reading between the lines, it's possible that Barbara
Blaine knew what Pope Benedict was talking about but choose to see it as
irrelevant. In contrast Margaret Kennedy seems to be an innocent at large!
Both are quoted in former IRA-man/ hunger striker Anthony McIntyre’s blog “The Pensive Quill”: article entitled
“Papal Bull” dated 26 December 2010 [1]
Sinead O’Connor was – naturally – among the “innocent”
ones, although it is difficult to distinguish her kind of ignorance from
malice. In an open letter to Pope Benedict she wrote:
… Please deign to respond to this letter directly and personally and put aside all the pomp and titles and so-called ‘proper channels’ all of which belong not in the 21st century but the 12th and are unbecoming of Christ.
Exactly who held the theory that pedophilia was fully in conformity with man and with children? Please give us their names.
Exactly when did they hold this theory? Exactly when if ever did they cease holding the theory?
Why was this information not given to victims? …. [MY COMMENT: Oh my God!]
(2) ‘Der Spiegel’ on Sex Abuse by German Leftists and Greens
However in an article in the Irish Independent on 24 December 2010 (Pope is Right on Views of Paedophilia in the 1970s), David Quinn pointed out among other things that:
(i) In the 1970s there was a movement to legalise sex between children and adults and it was supported by some of the leading lights of the time who believed that relationships of this sort weren’t evil at all, let alone an absolute evil.
(ii) Earlier in 2010, the German magazine, ‘Der Spiegel’ (itself on the left) reminded us of this fact in an article entitled ‘The sexual revolution and children: how the left took things too far.’ ***
(iii) The article describes the kinderladen movement in Germany set up by leftists in the 1970s as a rival to the kindergarten movement. Its intention was to radicalise very young children, and to ‘sexually liberate’ them.
(iv) Der Spiegel described what this involved: ‘The educators’ notes indicate that they placed a very strong emphasis on sex education. Almost every day, the students played games that involved taking off their clothes, reading porno magazines and pantomiming intercourse.’ In addition the children were encouraged to fondle each other and to fondle adults.
(v) How did the parents who sent their children to these schools justify this? As Der Spiegel makes clear, they believed they were ‘liberating’ children from ‘repressive’ and ‘bourgeois’ notions about child sexuality. …
(vi) The kinderladen movement was not the work of fringe cranks; in fact the far left in Germany, as elsewhere in the 1970s, was fantastically influential. One of the kinderladen leaders was Daniel Cohn-Bendit, a great hero of the 1968 student rebellion. Der Spiegel recounts how Cohn-Bendit appeared on French TV in 1982 and had the following to say:
“At nine in the morning, I join my eight little toddlers between the ages of 16 months and two years. I tickle them, they tickle me and we cuddle … you know, a child’s sexuality is fantastic thing ….. when a little five-year-old girl starts undressing, it’s great, because it’s a game. It’s an incredible erotic game.”
Today Cohn-Bendit laughs this off and says he was being merely provocative! He is now co-president of the Greens in the European Parliament.
(vii) The Der Spiegel article also reminds us that, as late as 1985, the Green’s state organisation in the German state of North Rhine-Westphalia argued that: “nonviolent sexuality between children and adults should generally be allowed without any age restrictions”.
(viii) The doyen of leftist philosophers Jean Paul Sartre had similar views at the time. In 1977, he and 69 other French leading lights wrote a letter to newspaper Le Monde in which they demanded the release of three men accused of having sex with minors. [2]
(ix) This attitude – ranging from ambivalence towards child/adult sex to outright support – still continues in France and elsewhere. In 2010 many people defended the film director Roman Polanski, among them other famous directors, actors as well as French government ministers. They demanded Polanski’s release from a Swiss prison even though he admitted to the statutory rape of a 13-year-old in 1973.
(x) In the 1970s a pro-paedophile organisation called the Paedophile Information Exchange was a member of the British Council of Civil Liberties. The North American Man-Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) was a member of one of the biggest gay rights movements in the world – the International Lesbian and gay Association – right up until 1993.
*** The Spiegel article by Jan Fleischhauer and Wiebke Hollersen is dated 2nd July 2010 and an
English version is available online at the Spiegel International website:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/the-sexual-revolution-and-children-how-the-left-took-things-too-far-a-702679.html
http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/the-sexual-revolution-and-children-how-the-left-took-things-too-far-a-702679.html
It begins:
“Germany's left has its own tales of abuse. One of the goals of the German 1968 movement was the sexual liberation of children. For some, this meant overcoming all sexual inhibitions, creating a climate in which even pedophilia was considered progressive.”
“Germany's left has its own tales of abuse. One of the goals of the German 1968 movement was the sexual liberation of children. For some, this meant overcoming all sexual inhibitions, creating a climate in which even pedophilia was considered progressive.”
It was good of the Irish Independent to publish David
Quinn’s article but nobody – either journalist or letter writers to the editor
- seems to have followed it up and it doesn’t appear to be available on the
Indo website either. [3] In fact
there appears to be a pattern where such non-PC facts are occasionally
published and then quickly buried.
Derek Scally had an article in the Irish Times on 10
August 2010 based on the Der Spiegel article. It is now behind the Irish Times
firewall but contains the following gem about the “Kommune 2” group:
“On a typical day, April 4th, 1968, communard Eberhard Schultz reported in graphic detail how Grischa (a three year old girl) got into bed with him and began stroking him intimately, which he reciprocated.
“Unknowingly, the two children [Grischa and four year old Nessim, a boy] became stars of the progressive educational scene. A leading left-wing magazine printed a double-page photo spread of Grischa and Nessim romping naked in the commune.
“The sexualisation of children and child-rearing spread to the “Red Freedom” kindergarten in the Kreuzberg district.
“Teaching plans from 1969 include the “development of socialist personalities” and “Agitprop” about the Vietnam War. Playtime was devoted to “street battles”, in which the infants were divided into groups of students and police or “pigs”. The sexual education of the toddlers was promoted through group study of pornographic magazines and sexual pantomime.”
Scally
also points out that this culture had become such an integral part of left wing
culture that in the interests of “open debate” “the left-wing Tageszeitung
newspaper regularly published articles on child sexuality”.
In one
1979 series, Scally says, “a male author praised the 'liberating feeling' of sex with children. A motion at the 1980
Green Party conference sought to “liberalise sex between children and adults”. [4]
The German Green
Party seems to have recovered rather well from that potential scandal – in fact
“potential” is the key-word as their journalist sympathisers never had any
intention of calling them to account on this issue. There was no follow up to
the publication of the Irish Times article and most people in this country have
completely forgotten about the basic facts. In this respect – if in few others
- Sinead O’Connor is perfectly normal!
NOTES:
[1] The article is at http://thepensivequill.am/2010/12/papal-bull.html
For a former terrorist and hunger striker who has broken with the IRA, Anthony McIntyre exhibits extra-ordinary naivety. Has he replaced the British with the Catholic Church, as the supposed fountain-head of all evil?
[2] According to a post on “The Pensive Quill”
Take for example the 1977 petition in France to remove ‘age of consent’ laws and the decriminalization of all consented relations between adults and minors below the age of fifteen.
“This was signed by such luminaries as Michel Foucault, Jacques Derrida, Louis Althusser, Jean-Paul Sartre, Simone de Beauvoir and André Glucksmann, Roland Barthes, by the novelist/gay activist Guy Hocquenghem, the actor/play-writer/jurist Jean Danet, writer and filmmaker Alain Robbe-Grillet, writer Philippe Sollers, pediatrician and child psychoanalyst Françoise Dolto and also by people belonging to a wide range of political positions.”
[3] David Quinn’s article is available on the Alliance Support site at
http://www.alliancesupport.org/news/archives/003972.html
[4] Quoted on “The Iona Blog” by Tom O’Gorman – article entitled “How Radicals Tried to Sexually ‘Liberate’ Children”
http://www.ionainstitute.ie/index.php?id=988
Another fantastic post which is a soure of healing for me. I can confirm this. It goes even further however. I was born in the Netherlannds in 1994. Here there had been movements that wanted to legalise paedophilia since at least the 1960s. But they actually partially succeeded. In 1991 a klachtvereiste bij zedendelicten, (requirement of complaint for sex crimes in English), was implemented for sex involving adults and children of 12 and older. This meant that adults who groomed children of 12 and other for sex, including teachers and the like, could not be prosecuted unnless the child came him or herself pressed charges or his guardians did. So vulnerable children with neglectful parents were completely at the mercy of paedophiles. To fire pederast teachers who slept with 12 year old boys was deemed illegal discrimination of the basis of sexual orientation, even for Christian schools. This law was passed in the lower house with only the small fundamentalist Protestant parties SGP and RPF as well as the Centre Democrats, ultranationalists attacked as being Fascist, voted against. The law was only repealed in 2002 when the age of consent became just 16 again. The possession of actual child porn was not criminalised till 1996. When I mentioned these facts along with sources and my personal exxperiences growing up in such a system on the Bilgrimage blog by Far Left homosexual William D. Lindsey, he called it Right-wing fake news, deleted it, claimed he could sense I hated gays, and said I should find healing, but that citing these facts was wrong cause it attacked a vulnerable minority, (though his blog was dedicated precisely to using child abuse to attack groups like Orthodox Catholics). Like SNAP, Lindsey exploits and silences real abuse victims. If you need more info, I will gladly provide it.
ReplyDeleteThanks again John. I have published another 2 parts of my 4 part series on "Liberal" and Green Support for Paedophilia?" based on a chapter of an unpublished book I wrote several yeras ago. Part [3] relates to Belgium and USA. Before doing part [4] I changed to focus on Peter Tatchell because there is a current debate in Ireland concerning him and our new Minister for Children. Of course I have heard about The Netherlands having a tremendously "broadminded" attitude to EVERY aspect of sex so what you say doesn't surprise me at all. I will look at that as soon as I finish my current endeavors. I probably need to do a follow up on Peter Tatchell because my current article just quotes his one on the IPCE website with very brief commentary by myself.
ReplyDeleteIt's correct that groups like SNAP exploit GENUINE victims (AND support fake ones) in order to demonise the Church!
Best wishes. Rory
Thank you for this response. Sorry I didn't read it sooner, health problems continue to distract me I am afraid. Thank you for taking the time to consider my experiences in the Netherlands.
DeleteI increasingly got that idea about SNAP also. I specifically looked into one of their former board members John Shuster, another ex-Catholic priest who got married and a co-leader of that rentapriest sect. The more I learned about him the more he seemed like a narcissistic and manipulative sociopath. Two other manipulative and exploitative individuals linked to SNAP that I came across were William D. Lindsey with his Bilgrimage blog and Gerry Slevin. I am not sure if I have mentioned them here before, (my memory tends to be a it fuzzy when I am ill), and I hope I don't bother or burden you by shating this information. Just haven't really found people who care about this though.
Best wishes also.
I'm not familiar with them but I checked out John Shuster and came up with this from The Seattle Times 17 October 2005: "Former priests available for services through rentapriest.com"
ReplyDeletehttps://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/?date=20051027&slug=priest27
QUOTE At least some church officials don't appreciate CITI's [Celibacy is the Issue] "help." In a Time magazine article in 2001, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops called rent-a-priest "a mockery ... an absolute joke."
The question of whether rituals performed by members of CITI are accepted by the church is a "deceptively complex issue" said Greg Magnoni, spokesman for the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Seattle.
He agreed that an ordained priest is a priest forever, but said church law also says for a Catholic wedding to be recognized by the church, it must be performed by an officer of the church. UNQUOTE
I agree!
Thank you for once again taking the time to respond. Shuster also posted propaganda about the Tuam grave to mocked the Catholic culture of life and was a prominent leading figure within SNAP. He was close friends to Clohessy. Lindsey of Bilgrimage blogs about similar stuff as you but uses it to further the lies, promote the sexual revolution and exploit abuse victims. He bullied and gaslighted me for sharing stories like the Greens and paedophilia and called centre-left sources like der Spiegel right-wing fake news.
DeleteGerry Slevin has posted on bishopsaccountability and supported a leftist takeover of the Church by Obama and Merkel as early as late 2012. He was predicting Benedict XVI would be replaced soon and seemed to be aware of the Catholic spring goals of the Podesta group.
John, Regarding "Survivors Network of Those Abused by Priests" (SNAP). you might like to look at THIS article:
ReplyDelete"Forgiveness of Clerical Child Abusers? Response by former victim Santiago Cruz"
https://irishsalem.blogspot.com/2018/07/forgiveness-of-clerical-child-abusers.html
including the following:
"There will not be true justice for victims until we move beyond the false notion that the Church and priesthood have been a special locus of sexual abuse, a myth that has benefited no one but personal injury lawyers and THEIR enablers in SNAP and VOTF.....
As long as we allow VOTF, SNAP and others with an agenda to keep us bound up in the cycle of blame and vilification and loathing, there can be no healing for the victims, for the Church, for anyone. It is time for some of the so-called victim advocates in this picture to recognize that they are doing far more harm than good. I applaud Sister D’Arienzo for having the courage to write so openly against a seeming tidal wave of angry, unproductive rhetoric."
this article in French from L'Express is related with your topic:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.lexpress.fr/informations/le-devoir-d-inventaire_641580.html
That you. It is very interesting even with a Google Translation! There is a lot about Daniel Cohn -Bendit who obviously got away with vicious behaviour in much the same way that Roman Polanski did - no Right-Wing equivalents would have been treated with such tolerance in France or Germany. I see there is a section in the Wikipedia article on Cohn -Bendit entitled: "Defence of Paedophilia" including
ReplyDelete"Cohn-Bendit reacted to these allegations by claiming that his descriptions of erotic encounters with pre-pubescent girls were not based on true events but were merely intended as what he today calls "obnoxious provocation" aimed at questioning sexual morals at the time that "shouldn't have been written that way."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Cohn-Bendit